#1 January 9th, 2005 07:09 AM

apple45
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I shot myself? Or Not?

I thought that one of the requirements of this site (or, at least the primary folios) is that the subject of the pictures is also the author of them.   Check out the blown-up reflection of honey_10 attached.  You can clearly make out an image of someone taking her picture.

So, what's the deal?  This site costs a lot more than most porn sites, and I think people pay the extra money because they believe that they are supporting something unique.  Are we really?

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#2 January 9th, 2005 07:49 AM

liz
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Re: I shot myself? Or Not?

I totally noticed that too - there are actually more than one where you can see what seems pretty clearly to be a photographer reflected in her eyes...

apple45 wrote:

I thought that one of the requirements of this site (or, at least the primary folios) is that the subject of the pictures is also the author of them.   Check out the blown-up reflection of honey_10 attached.  You can clearly make out an image of someone taking her picture.

So, what's the deal?  This site costs a lot more than most porn sites, and I think people pay the extra money because they believe that they are supporting something unique.  Are we really?


"If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution."
            -Emma Goldman

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#3 January 9th, 2005 11:52 AM

Head
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liz wrote:

I totally noticed that too - there are actually more than one where you can see what seems pretty clearly to be a photographer reflected in her eyes...

Maybe it's her sister?   We know that sometimes girls get someone to help, and if it's obvious we put their set in Overload.

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#4 February 27th, 2005 06:48 PM

hallux
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Re: I shot myself? Or Not?

Come on!

What the hell matters who took the pics as long as they look good. For me I have never believed in Father Xmas since I was a kid, but hey, the presents were there. I also doubt if every "artist" took the pics.

It is a novel way of presenting the girls next door, down the street or from god know where. They are very believable, natural and most important those close up shot are so clear. The only problem is that I don't have much time to download. No easy quick way, got fed up....

Then there are lots of nice pink nipples for the tit men......

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#5 February 28th, 2005 02:01 AM

GusTheMynahBird
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Re: I shot myself? Or Not?

apple45 wrote:

I thought that one of the requirements of this site (or, at least the primary folios) is that the subject of the pictures is also the author of them.   Check out the blown-up reflection of honey_10 attached.  You can clearly make out an image of someone taking her picture.

So, what's the deal?  This site costs a lot more than most porn sites, and I think people pay the extra money because they believe that they are supporting something unique.  Are we really?

Were this rule to be enforced strictly, the site would be mostly pictures of girls with their arms extended towards the viewer, awkwardly grinning at the camera they're holding, which would cut down on the variety greatly.

I think it's more reasonable to assume that authorship of pictures can involve having creative control of the poses, even if somebody else holds the camera. The crucial element is self-expression; if the model is expressing herself or a concept of her own devising, as opposed to following a script devised by someone else, then, in my opinion, that counts.

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#6 February 28th, 2005 03:05 AM

liz
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To me, it is very important that the women actually do shoot themselves.  From my own experience, and from many, many of the folios on this site, beautiful pictures *can* be taken by oneself.  Yes, sometimes you end up with a lot of similiar photos with your arm stretched out, but with a little practice and some creative wiggling, magic can be had.

There are plenty of "amateur" sites out there, where women probably have more control of poses, etc., while someone else actually operates the camera, but that's not what this site is supposed to be about.

In response to "What the hell matters who took the pics" - it matters because that's what the site says it is.    If the site was sold and advertised as a site wherein women have most of the creative control, but are photographed by someone else, then fine.  But it is sold and advertised as a site wherein the model is the photographer - thus calling us artists rather than just models.  It matters to me because I want authenticity; I come here to see what it actually promises, not to see a semblance of  what it promises.


"If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution."
            -Emma Goldman

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#7 February 28th, 2005 10:25 AM

Violex_Kitty
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Re: I shot myself? Or Not?

apple45 wrote:

I thought that one of the requirements of this site (or, at least the primary folios) is that the subject of the pictures is also the author of them.   Check out the blown-up reflection of honey_10 attached.  You can clearly make out an image of someone taking her picture.

So, what's the deal?  This site costs a lot more than most porn sites, and I think people pay the extra money because they believe that they are supporting something unique.  Are we really?

I think this is a really uncommon occurance.  A large majority of the folios look as if they've been taken by the artist; solo, in seclusion.  I guess some of the girls like to have their partners/friends there for moral support, suggestions, etc (especially when out in public), and because they're not proffessional photographers a reflection or indiction of another show up in their shots.  But really, 99% of the sets are very obviously self-shot...

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#8 February 28th, 2005 03:27 PM

SCSIgirl
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Re: I shot myself? Or Not?

liz wrote:

To me, it is very important that the women actually do shoot themselves.  From my own experience, and from many, many of the folios on this site, beautiful pictures *can* be taken by oneself.  Yes, sometimes you end up with a lot of similiar photos with your arm stretched out, but with a little practice and some creative wiggling, magic can be had.

There are plenty of "amateur" sites out there, where women probably have more control of poses, etc., while someone else actually operates the camera, but that's not what this site is supposed to be about.

In response to "What the hell matters who took the pics" - it matters because that's what the site says it is.    If the site was sold and advertised as a site wherein women have most of the creative control, but are photographed by someone else, then fine.  But it is sold and advertised as a site wherein the model is the photographer - thus calling us artists rather than just models.  It matters to me because I want authenticity; I come here to see what it actually promises, not to see a semblance of  what it promises.


I have to agree with you, Liz.  A perfect example are the shots of Niyna.  These are so expertly concieved and executed they are at a professional level.  I would be very disappointed to find out she hired a pro or had a pro friend shoot them.  It would be like finding out that Andre Bochelli really lip syncs.


"Apple of my Eye", "bated breath", "brave new world", "caught red-handed" - all coined by Shakespeare.

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